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uperkurk
11-11-06, 15:01
Hey people. need some help, to long to post on here, would someone mind adding me to msn uperkurk@gmail.com

Thanks in advance

P.S someone that knows alot about shuttle systems.

uperkurk
11-11-06, 16:20
Sorry for double post, will a Inno3D Geforce 6800GS 256MB DDR3 PCI-E card be able to play bf2, requirements say i need a certain chipset.
the chipset for the SN26P shuttle is NVIDIA nForce4 SLI, dunno if that is good enough. is my chipset the same as below?


Video card must have 128 MB or more memory and one of the following chipsets:
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 or greater
ATI Radeon 8500 or greater

Aaron
11-11-06, 16:39
you should be fine with that card :)

mac124
11-11-06, 16:44
Inno3d 7300gt ddr3 would be better and costs around £60ish (for the 256mb version) if you shop around, wish Aria would stock them as o recommend them quite a bit to people looking for a reasonable yet cheapish card for gaming.

AHA see Aria now have a 7300gt ddr3 in their stocklist 8) , though they are currently out of stock :(

http://www.aria.co.uk/ProductInfoComm.asp?ID=25130

Aaron
11-11-06, 16:47
oh, i thought you meant that the 6800 was the card you already had...! yeah, the 7300 would be good too :)

uperkurk
11-11-06, 18:00
Is the 7300 compatible with the SN26P shuttle tho?

mac124
11-11-06, 19:29
If your shuttle has a pcie graphics slot then yes its compatible as is any other pcie graphics card.

You can put ANY single pcie graphics card into ANY motherboard that has a matching pcie graphics card slot. Just because your motherboard has an nvidia or ati chipset doesn't limit you to an nvidia or ati graphics card respectively. I have an ati graphics card running perfectly happily in my nvidia chipset motherboard i would only need to run nvidia graphics cards if i wanted to run dual graphics cards as it is an sli motherboard, which is the nvidia dual graphics card setup. Likewise i could use a nvidia graphics card on a motherboard with an ati chipset but if i wanted to use dual graphics cards in a crossfire setup, ati's equivalent of sli, then they would have to be ati cards.

Sorry if this is a tad confusing but you aren't the first inexperienced pc user, no offence intended, that has fallen for this misconception.

I still stand by my suggestion of the 7300gt ddr3 graphics card though. 8)

uperkurk
12-11-06, 15:55
Confusing? thats the best help ive had, i mean, why couldnt all the other people tell me that.

What 7300gt card, theres about 7 diffrent 7300gt cards on aria?

Thanks alot m8, one thing tho, why does the SN26P shuttle site have only a few compatible gfx cards? have a look;

http://eu.shuttle.com/en/DesktopDefault.aspx/tabid-388/633_read-11626/

One more thing, when i bought the SN26P comp it came with a book about the bios settings, do i have to set all the bios settings myself or does it come pre configed.

uperkurk
12-11-06, 17:31
Will the POV Nvidia 7900GS-256Mb PCI-E card work ?

mac124
12-11-06, 19:40
No idea why they only list a few gfx cards on the shuttle website though from the look of it it hasn't been updated in a while as some of those are pretty old cards.

If you were going to go for a 7300gt from Aria then i would suggest you get the one i linked to in my other earlier post but heres the linky again :wink:

http://www.aria.co.uk/ProductInfoComm.asp?ID=25130

If you need to look elsewhere for one because that one is out of stock make sure the one you get is DDR3 as they are far far better than the ddr2 version of the 7300gt.

Again for the same reasons i gave before i see no reason why the 7900gs wouldn't work in a shuttle, i know someone who was running a 7800gtx in a shuttle so the 7900gs should work too

Biodoid
13-11-06, 01:07
try looking out for the Galaxy version of the 7300GT as that has ddr3 plus is factory overclocked and has been benched faster than a 7600GS :wink: plus it has a nice Zalman cooler on it

uperkurk
13-11-06, 15:23
Well, just found out that the POV Nvidia 7900GS-256Mb PCI-E wont work because its to wide :( and the 7300GT is rather cheep, cant be that good?

Because i dont no much about computers i have to ask about everything :oops:

Can someone please answer this question for me plz

One more thing, when i bought the SN26P comp it came with a book about the bios settings, do i have to set all the bios settings myself or does it come pre configed.

mac124
13-11-06, 19:04
For the money the 7300gt is a little belter, a mate of mine has an 850XT clocked to PE speeds and my 7300gt almost benchies as high as that, it does the Counterstrike Source video stress test with almost 90fps average @ 1280x1024 max details and 1 setting of AA and AF now for aprox £60 there aren't many other cards that can touch it. Granted next to a card costing 3x as much (7900gs etc) it will get stomped on in the performance stakes and no its not a hard core gamers card but it will play BF2 reasonably well if the rest of your setup is upto it, ie 2gb of memory is almost a must for BF2 and might improve things almost as much as a new gfx card.


As for the bios settings nope you shouldn't need to touch them it should sort out itself.

uperkurk
14-11-06, 17:28
Just been looking at the 7300gt DDR3 and i think 2 of them would work good but i dont no if my 350w psu can handle it and make full use of them? what your ideas guys.

Does 2 cards mean 2x the performance?

mac124
14-11-06, 18:25
Your psu should be fine, for some strange reason shuttle psu's are grossly under rated 350watt doesn't mean alot in a shuttle for some unknown reason, know a guy who was running dual 7800gtx's in his ok so 2 7300gts should be fine.

No 2x graphics cards doesn't generally give twice the performance, dunno why but it just doesn't it WILL give a big boost somewhere in the reagion of 50% to 60% if not more but no not double.

uperkurk
14-11-06, 18:31
So is it worth buying 2 costing a total of 140 pound or buying 1 at 140?

mac124
14-11-06, 19:16
Go for the single card it will probably be more powerful and you wont have the hassle of setting up the sli.

David
15-11-06, 02:05
To be honest I wouldn't go for SLI or Crossfire unless my graphics budget exceeded the most powerful card on the market.

Much like with CPUs, dual-core is all well and good but (for the near future at least) both cores are not going to be utilised to the fullest so the additional clock speeds of the higher models will be of more benefit than having two GPUs

mac124
15-11-06, 08:53
Its not just about clock speed i mean my 7300gt runs 600/800 (effextively 1600mhz memory speed) does that mean its faster than a 7600gt running 580/750? No becuase the 7600gt has more pixel pipelines.

DO NOT just go for the highest clocked card you can find / afford UNLESS you are comparing like for like.

uperkurk
15-11-06, 16:09
Basically the games i wanna play are CS and battlefield 2 with no lagg and decent resolution, so im thinking the Inno3D GeForce 7900GS 256MB PCI-E @ 140 is a good enough card?

But not sure whether it will fit or not?